How to Make Money with a Podcast: Why Most Podcasters Earn $0

There are over 4 million podcasts registered globally. Fewer than 500,000 are actively publishing. And of those, only a small fraction earn meaningful money.

That’s not meant to discourage you. It’s meant to recalibrate expectations — because the podcast monetisation timeline is one of the most misunderstood in the entire creator economy. Most guides list “get sponsors” as step three. In reality, sponsors don’t care about your podcast until you reach download numbers that take most creators 12–24 months of consistent publishing to achieve.

Podcasting can absolutely generate income. But the money rarely comes from podcasting itself — it comes from what you build around it. The podcast is the audience engine. The revenue engine is sponsorships, affiliate marketing, premium content, courses, services, or products that the podcast audience fuels.

I’ve spent 15+ years evaluating income methods. Here’s how podcast monetisation actually works.

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But first — the real podcast monetisation breakdown.


The Five Podcast Monetisation Models

Model 1: Sponsorships and Advertising

How it works: Brands pay you to read ad spots during your episodes. Ads are typically 15–60 seconds and placed as pre-roll (before content), mid-roll (during content), or post-roll (after content).

The CPM model: Podcast sponsorships are priced on CPM — cost per mille (per 1,000 downloads). Standard CPM rates:

Ad Placement Typical CPM Per-Episode Revenue (1,000 downloads) Per-Episode Revenue (5,000 downloads)
Pre-roll (15–30 sec) $15–$25 $15–$25 $75–$125
Mid-roll (60 sec) $20–$50 $20–$50 $100–$250
Post-roll (15–30 sec) $10–$15 $10–$15 $50–$75

Download thresholds for sponsors: Most sponsors require a minimum of 5,000 downloads per episode before considering a sponsorship deal. Premium sponsors (major brands) typically require 10,000–50,000+. Networks like Midroll, AdvertiseCast, and Podcorn connect podcasters with sponsors, but most have minimum download requirements.

The honest math: A podcast with 5,000 downloads per episode running one mid-roll ad at $25 CPM generates $125 per episode. Publishing weekly = $500/month. At 10,000 downloads with pre-roll + mid-roll = $300–$375/episode = $1,200–$1,500/month.

Timeline to 5,000 downloads/episode: For most podcasters starting from zero audience: 12–24 months of consistent weekly publishing. Some niches reach this faster; many take longer.

Model 2: Affiliate Marketing

How it works: Recommend products relevant to your audience with unique tracking links. Earn commissions when listeners purchase through your links.

Why this works for podcasters: Your audience trusts your voice. Personal recommendations from a podcaster convert at significantly higher rates than banner ads on websites. Podcast listeners tend to be more engaged and action-oriented than casual web browsers.

Affiliate revenue math: A podcast with 2,000 downloads/episode recommending one product per episode: 2,000 downloads × 2% click-through rate = 40 clicks × 5% conversion rate = 2 sales. If the average commission is $25, that’s $50/episode or $200/month. With higher-ticket affiliate offers ($100+ commissions), the same math produces $200/episode or $800/month.

Advantage over sponsorships: No minimum download threshold. You can start affiliate marketing from episode 1. Performance-based — you earn proportionally to your influence regardless of audience size.

For the full breakdown, affiliate marketing covers programme selection, commission structures, and traffic strategies.

Model 3: Premium Content and Memberships

How it works: Offer exclusive content behind a paywall. Bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access, Q&A sessions, or behind-the-scenes content.

Platforms: Apple Podcasts Subscriptions, Spotify for Podcasters (paid subscriptions), Patreon, Supercast, Supporting Cast.

Revenue math: 100 paying subscribers at $5/month = $500/month. 500 subscribers at $7/month = $3,500/month. Conversion rate from free to paid listeners: typically 2–5% of regular listeners convert to paying subscribers.

What premium content works: Extended interviews that free episodes preview. Ad-free versions of regular episodes. Exclusive series on niche subtopics. Community access (Discord, private forum). Early access to episodes (24–48 hours before public release).

This model creates digital assets that pay monthly — recurring revenue from content you’ve already produced.

Model 4: Selling Your Own Products or Services

How it works: Use your podcast as a marketing channel for courses, coaching, consulting, books, merchandise, or software you’ve created.

Why this is the highest-revenue model: You keep 100% of the profit margin (minus transaction costs). No download thresholds required. Your podcast audience is pre-qualified — they already know, like, and trust you.

Revenue math: A course priced at $200 promoted to 3,000 listeners per episode: even a 0.5% conversion rate (15 sales) generates $3,000. One launch per quarter = $12,000/year from a modest-sized podcast.

What products podcast audiences buy: Online courses ($50–$2,000), coaching/consulting ($500–$5,000), books/ebooks ($10–$30), templates/tools ($20–$100), community memberships ($10–$50/month).

Model 5: Live Events and Speaking

How it works: Leverage your podcast brand to book speaking engagements, host live podcast recordings, or organise paid meetups and workshops.

Revenue potential: Speaking fees for podcasters with established audiences: $1,000–$10,000+ per engagement. Live podcast events: $25–$100/ticket × 100–500 attendees = $2,500–$50,000 per event.

Threshold: Typically requires 6–12 months of consistent podcasting and a recognisable brand within your niche.

The Download Threshold Reality

Downloads per episode are the currency of podcast monetisation. Here’s what the numbers actually look like:

Downloads Per Episode Percentile Monetisation Potential
Under 100 Bottom 50% Affiliate only
100–500 Top 50% Affiliate + small memberships
500–1,000 Top 20% Affiliate + memberships + small sponsors
1,000–5,000 Top 10% All models viable at modest levels
5,000–10,000 Top 5% Meaningful sponsorship revenue
10,000–50,000 Top 2% Full-time income potential
50,000+ Top 1% Premium sponsorships + major revenue

The sobering reality: If your podcast gets 200 downloads per episode, you’re already performing better than most podcasts. But 200 downloads doesn’t attract sponsors or generate meaningful affiliate revenue. The gap between “above average” and “monetisable” is significant.

Timeline Expectations

Phase Timeline What Happens
Launch Months 1–3 First 10–30 episodes. 50–200 downloads/episode. $0 revenue. Building format, finding voice.
Growth Months 4–12 Consistent publishing. 200–1,000 downloads/episode. First affiliate commissions ($50–$200/month).
Traction Months 12–24 Audience loyalty building. 1,000–5,000 downloads/episode. First sponsors ($200–$500/month). Membership launch ($100–$500/month).
Established Months 24–36+ Multiple revenue streams. 5,000–20,000+ downloads/episode. $1,000–$5,000+/month combined.

For understanding how long it takes to make money online, podcasting sits at the longer end — 12–24 months to meaningful income for most creators.

Startup Costs

Item Budget Option Quality Option
Microphone $50 (Audio-Technica ATR2100x) $200–$400 (Shure SM7B + interface)
Headphones $20 (basic monitoring) $80–$150 (Audio-Technica ATH-M50x)
Hosting $12–$15/month (Buzzsprout, Libsyn) $20–$50/month (premium plans)
Editing software $0 (Audacity, GarageBand) $20–$30/month (Adobe Audition, Descript)
Cover art $0 (Canva free) $50–$200 (professional design)
Website $0 (hosting platform page) $50–$150/year (WordPress)
Total startup $80–$100 $400–$900
Monthly ongoing $12–$15 $40–$80

Pros and Cons

What works: Low startup cost. Intimate audience connection (voice creates stronger bonds than text). Evergreen content (episodes generate downloads for years). Multiple monetisation paths. Portfolio career potential (podcast supports other business activities). Growing medium (podcast listenership increases annually).

What doesn’t: 12–24 month timeline to meaningful income. Consistent production required (weekly episodes minimum). Audio quality expectations have risen. Discoverability is challenging (no native algorithm recommending your show). Most monetisation requires audience scale. Editing and production consume significant time.

Who This Is NOT For

If you need income within 90 days, podcasting’s timeline is incompatible.

If you don’t enjoy talking, recording, and editing audio, the production process will feel like a grind.

If you have no niche expertise or unique perspective, standing out among 4+ million registered podcasts is extremely difficult.

If you’re not willing to publish consistently for 12+ months before seeing revenue, the dropout rate is extremely high — most podcasts stop publishing within the first 20 episodes.

For the best online business to start, podcasting works best as a component of a broader business strategy — not as a standalone income model. For realistic online income expectations, most podcasters with under 1,000 downloads/episode earn $0–$200/month.

The “Podcast as Business Asset” Approach

The most successful podcast monetisers don’t treat their show as the product. They treat it as the marketing channel.

A consultant who podcasts about marketing strategy attracts clients who pay $5,000–$15,000/month — far more than sponsorships could generate at any download level. A course creator who podcasts about their expertise builds an audience that purchases $200–$2,000 courses. A coach who podcasts about their methodology attracts coaching clients at $500–$5,000/month.

In each case, the podcast itself generates modest direct revenue ($0–$500/month). But the business it feeds generates $5,000–$50,000+/month. The podcast is the fuel, not the engine.

Frequently Asked Questions

How many downloads do you need to make money? For sponsorships: 5,000+ per episode minimum. For affiliate marketing: any amount (proportional to audience). For products/services: any amount (even 100 engaged listeners can buy).

How much do podcasters make? Median: $0 (most podcasts earn nothing). Active monetised podcasters: $500–$5,000/month. Top 1%: $10,000–$100,000+/month.

What’s the fastest way to monetise a podcast? Affiliate marketing (no minimum threshold) and selling your own products/services (highest revenue per listener).

Is podcasting worth starting in 2026? As a standalone income play: risky and slow. As a business-building tool alongside other revenue streams: excellent.

What equipment do I need? Minimum: USB microphone ($50), headphones ($20), free editing software (Audacity), and hosting ($12/month). Total: under $100.


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The Bottom Line

Podcasting generates income through sponsorships, affiliate marketing, premium content, products, and speaking — not through the podcast itself. The timeline is 12–24 months to meaningful revenue, the threshold is thousands of downloads per episode for sponsorships, and the highest-earning podcasters use their show to sell their own products and services rather than relying on ad revenue alone. Start a podcast because you have something to say and a business to build around it. Don’t start one expecting it to be the business itself.

Choosing a Podcast Niche That Monetises

Not all podcast niches monetise equally. The niche determines your audience size, advertiser interest, and product/service opportunities.

High-monetisation niches: Business and entrepreneurship (advertisers pay premium CPMs, audience buys courses/services), personal finance (financial product sponsors pay $40–$80 CPM), technology (SaaS sponsors, affiliate programmes), health and fitness (supplement and equipment sponsors, coaching sales), marketing (agency services, software affiliates).

Moderate-monetisation niches: True crime (large audiences but lower advertiser CPMs due to brand safety concerns), self-improvement (good audience engagement but lower-value affiliate products), parenting (decent sponsor interest but lower CPMs than business niches), education (strong audience loyalty but smaller total market).

Low-monetisation niches: Fiction/storytelling (audiences don’t buy products based on podcast recommendations), general entertainment/comedy (large audiences possible but low per-listener monetisation), hobby-specific niche podcasts with small total addressable audiences.

The niche selection trade-off: High-monetisation niches have more competition. A business podcast competes with tens of thousands of shows but can monetise at 500 downloads/episode through coaching and affiliate marketing. A pottery podcast has minimal competition but almost no monetisation path beyond memberships.

Growing Downloads: What Actually Works

The gap between 200 downloads/episode and 5,000 downloads/episode is where most podcasters get stuck. Here’s what moves the needle.

Consistent publishing schedule. Weekly episodes are the minimum for audience building. Podcast directories (Apple, Spotify) algorithmically favour shows that publish consistently. Missing a week costs you more than one episode’s downloads — it breaks listener habits.

Guest strategy. Inviting guests with existing audiences exposes your show to new listeners. The key: invite guests who will share the episode with their audience. A guest with 10,000 email subscribers or social followers who shares your episode can add 100–500 new listeners in a single episode.

SEO for podcast episodes. Create show notes with keyword-rich descriptions for each episode. Host a podcast website with full episode transcripts. Google indexes podcast transcripts, driving organic search traffic to your show. Some podcasts generate 30–50% of their downloads from search-discovered episodes.

Cross-promotion with other podcasters. Swap promotional reads with podcasters in adjacent niches. You promote their show; they promote yours. Free, mutually beneficial, and targets listeners who already consume podcasts (eliminating the “convince someone to try podcasts” barrier).

Social media clips. Extract 30–90 second highlight clips from each episode. Post on YouTube Shorts, TikTok, Instagram Reels, and X. Short-form video is the most effective discovery channel for podcasts in 2026. One viral clip can drive thousands of new listeners to your show.

Email list integration. Build an email list from your podcast audience (offer a free resource related to your topic). Email new episode announcements to your list. Email subscribers listen at 3–5x the rate of casual followers on other platforms.

What Makes Podcast Revenue Different from Other Content

Podcasts have unique monetisation characteristics compared to blogs, YouTube, or social media.

Higher trust per listener. Podcast listeners hear your voice in their ears for 30–60 minutes per episode. This creates an intimacy and trust that text content can’t match. Conversion rates on podcast-recommended products are consistently higher than blog or social media recommendations.

Lower discovery but higher retention. Podcasts are harder to discover than YouTube videos or blog posts (no algorithm recommending your show to strangers). But once someone subscribes, they listen to most episodes. Average podcast subscriber retention is significantly higher than YouTube subscriber view rates.

Longer shelf life per episode. Blog posts lose traffic as they age. YouTube videos peak within 48 hours. Podcast episodes continue generating downloads for months or years. A 2-year-old episode ranking for a search term drives consistent new listeners.

Revenue per listener is higher. A YouTube channel with 10,000 subscribers might earn $500–$1,000/month from ads. A podcast with 10,000 downloads/episode can earn $1,000–$3,000/month from sponsorships alone — plus membership, affiliate, and product revenue. Per-listener revenue is typically 2–5x higher for podcasts than for equivalent YouTube channels.

Podcast Equipment and Tech Stack: What You Actually Need

The equipment conversation intimidates beginners unnecessarily. Here’s what you actually need at each stage.

Starter setup ($100–$200): USB microphone (Audio-Technica ATR2100x or Samson Q2U, $60–$70), pop filter ($10), basic headphones ($20–$40), and free software (Audacity or GarageBand). This setup produces audio quality sufficient for your first 50 episodes and early monetisation.

Growth setup ($500–$1,000): XLR microphone (Shure SM7B or Rode PodMic, $100–$400), audio interface (Focusrite Scarlett Solo, $120), boom arm ($30–$80), acoustic treatment (foam panels, $50–$100), and editing software (Descript or Adobe Podcast, $15–$25/month). This setup produces professional-grade audio that sponsors and listeners expect from established shows.

Hosting platform: Buzzsprout, Libsyn, Podbean, or Anchor (free). Costs $12–$30/month for paid hosting. Your host distributes to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all major platforms through RSS.

Recording remote interviews: Riverside.fm, SquadCast, or Zencastr ($15–$25/month) for high-quality remote recordings. Essential for interview-format shows.

The equipment trap: Many beginners spend $2,000+ on equipment before recording a single episode. A $70 USB microphone produces podcast-quality audio. Upgrade after you’ve proven you can publish consistently for 3 months.

The CPM Math in Detail

Understanding CPM (cost per mille/thousand downloads) is essential for evaluating sponsorship revenue potential.

Industry average CPMs (2025–2026):

Ad Placement Average CPM Per 1,000 Downloads
Pre-roll (15–30 seconds) $15–$25 $15–$25
Mid-roll (60 seconds) $20–$50 $20–$50
Post-roll (15–30 seconds) $8–$15 $8–$15

Revenue scenarios by download count:

Downloads/Episode Pre-roll + Mid-roll Revenue Annual Revenue (weekly show)
500 $17.50–$37.50 $910–$1,950
1,000 $35–$75 $1,820–$3,900
5,000 $175–$375 $9,100–$19,500
10,000 $350–$750 $18,200–$39,000
25,000 $875–$1,875 $45,500–$97,500
50,000 $1,750–$3,750 $91,000–$195,000

The critical insight: Below 5,000 downloads per episode, sponsorship revenue alone rarely justifies the time investment. This is why experienced podcasters focus on their own products, affiliate marketing, and premium content — revenue models that don’t require massive download numbers.

Niche CPM premiums: Business, finance, and technology podcasts command 2–3x average CPMs because advertisers pay premium rates to reach high-income listeners. A 5,000-download business podcast might earn the same sponsorship revenue as a 15,000-download entertainment podcast.

Building a Podcast Audience: The First 1,000 Downloads

Getting from 0 to 1,000 downloads per episode is the hardest milestone. Here’s what actually moves the needle.

Cross-promotion with other podcasts. Guest appearances on established shows in your niche are the single most effective growth strategy. Each appearance introduces you to an audience already proven to listen to podcasts. Pitch 2–3 shows per month with specific topic angles, not generic “I’d love to come on your show” requests.

YouTube cross-posting. Upload podcast episodes (or clips) to YouTube. YouTube’s search and recommendation algorithm discovers new audiences that podcast directories don’t reach. Many podcasters report that YouTube becomes their primary discovery channel within 12 months.

Social media clips. Cut 60–90 second highlight clips from each episode and post to Instagram Reels, TikTok, YouTube Shorts, and LinkedIn (for business podcasts). One clip per episode at minimum, ideally 2–3 featuring the most compelling moments.

Email list building. Capture listener emails through show notes, episode resources, and a dedicated landing page. An email list converts at 5–10x the rate of social followers for announcing new episodes, promoting products, and maintaining audience connection during publishing gaps.

SEO-optimised show notes. Detailed episode descriptions with relevant keywords help episodes appear in Google search results. Many listeners discover podcasts through Google, not through podcast directories.

The compounding effect: Growth feels impossibly slow for 6–12 months, then accelerates. Each new listener who subscribes automatically downloads future episodes. A podcast with 1,000 subscribers adding 50 new subscribers monthly reaches 1,600 in 12 months — but those 1,600 subscribers generate 1,600+ downloads per episode automatically.

Common Mistakes New Podcasters Make

Launching without enough initial episodes. Release 3–5 episodes on launch day. New listeners who discover one episode and want more will subscribe. One-episode launches give listeners nothing to binge and no reason to subscribe.

Obsessing over audio quality initially. Perfect audio matters less than consistent publishing in the first 6 months. A $50 USB mic in a quiet room produces listenable audio. Spending $2,000 on studio equipment before episode 10 is premature optimisation.

Neglecting show notes and episode descriptions. These are your SEO footprint. Detailed show notes with keywords, links, and summaries help episodes appear in search results and help listeners decide whether to listen.

Not asking for reviews and subscriptions. Podcast directory rankings factor in subscriber counts and review numbers. Asking listeners to subscribe and leave reviews at the end of each episode is not annoying — it’s necessary for growth.

Trying to monetise too early. Approaching sponsors with 200 downloads/episode wastes your time and credibility. Focus on audience building for 6–12 months before pursuing sponsorship. Use affiliate marketing for earlier revenue without download requirements.